Crash evidence must remain in Ukraine — Obama and Poroshenko



2014/07/18 • News

The Presidents of the United States  and Ukraine, Barack Obama and Petro Poroshenko, during their telephone conversation on Thursday, July 17, stressed that all evidence from the crash site of the Malaysian plane in the Donetsk Oblast must remain in place on the territory of Ukraine until international investigators have a chance to study all aspects of the tragedy, the White House press service reported.

President Poroshenko welcomed the assistance of international investigators to ensure a thorough and transparent investigation of the crash site. Obama assured him that U.S. experts will offer all possible assistance immediately, the White House statement said.

Earlier on Thursday the pro-Russian militants in control of the area where the plane went down said the “black boxes” have been found already and would be turned over to Russia for analysis. The militants prevented Ukrainian authorities from approaching the crash site. However, representatives of the Russian TV channel LifeNews were already there, Radio Svoboda reported, July 17.

According to Radio Svoboda, social networks are reporting that militants and locals have resorted to looting at the site of the downed plane. In several previous instances when Ukrainian military aircraft were shot down by militants and fell on territories under their control, the planes were quickly torn apart for scrap metal.

Several Russian officials have already demanded that the examination of the circumstances of the tragedy be conducted in Russia. They argue that Ukraine is a member of the CIS Interstate Aviation Committee, which operates in Moscow and, in particular, investigates aviation crashes. However, international rules require that investigations of air crashes be conducted or led by the country in which they occurred

The Boeing 777 of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with 295 people on board crashed on Thursday, July 17, and came down in the Donetsk Oblast near the town of Torez. There were many children among the passengers. All were killed.

The Security Service of Ukraine released intercepted phone conversations among the militants, where they discuss the downing of the plane and allegedly report on the event to a supervisor in Moscow.

The pro-Russian militants first publicly claimed they had successfully shot down what they considered to be a Ukrainian military transport plane. These claims were widely reported in Russian media. But as soon as it became evident that it was a passenger jet, the militants began to claim they were not involved and that they did not have weapons that could shoot down a plane at an altitude of 10 kilometers. At the same time, they began to delete announcements from previous days where they had bragged about possessing such powerful air defense systems.

The Russian government and pro-Kremlin media began to promote the view that the plane could have been brought down by Ukrainian armed forces. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin blamed the disaster on Ukraine, saying it was due to the government’s renewed military activity against the separatists in the east of the country. President Poroshenko claimed that is was not an incident or an accident but a terrorist act.

Translation: Anna Mostovych

Source: Radio Svoboda

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  • Walter Salmaniw

    Dear God, has Russia no shame?

    • llewellynh

      It is possible that gross stupidity is part of this one.

      • Arctic_Slicer

        That and Russia, or at least Putin, has no shame.

  • llewellynh

    It’s a little late for the black box but by Putin’s allowing it to enter Russia he who is a lawyer knows full well that that box belonged where it fell and certainly he should have instantly returned it if he didn’t know it was coming. Unlikely though given his heavy hand.

    Legally the box belongs to Malaysian Airlines but they and the Ukraine and the Netherlands and countries with unbiased professional forensic investigators should be the ones to cooperatively inspect all evidence. According to Putin, Russia didn’t have a thing to do with the situation so why he feels the box belongs in Russia will be very difficult for even him to justify.

    It may come down to surveillance that was in place but that possibly the US has and won’t want to acknowledge it in the form of public release. But if Putin doesn’t back down I think the world will pressure the US to cough up whatever information it has.

  • Murf

    “must remain in place on the territory of Ukraine.”
    now that’s just plain crazy talk.
    How on earth do expect them to cover this and blame UA if they do that?